Comments on Paul Fremantle's Blog: A new kind of (SOA) Registry

I like that your RSS approach isn't coming from a ...

2008-01-07T12:09:00.000-08:00

I like that your RSS approach isn't coming from a fundamentalist anti uddi perspective but a very pragmatic one...kudos for a fresh view and it seems you thought of it already a while ago!

Miko

Here is what I wrote a couple of years ago:http://...

2008-01-07T11:42:00.000-08:00

Here is what I wrote a couple of years ago:
http://www.ipbabble.com/2006/01/rss_for_soa_based_services_reg.html

I had some follow-up with some code here:
http://www.ipbabble.com/2006/01/rss_demo_code.html

Cheers,
William

The first release of this code is now available: c...

2007-12-22T00:42:00.000-08:00

The first release of this code is now available: check out http://wso2.org/downloads/registry

Paul

William Henry of IONA (http://www.ipbabble.com/ po...

2007-12-22T00:10:00.000-08:00

William Henry of IONA (http://www.ipbabble.com/ posted a note on doing this quite some time ago. I cannot find it right now, but will look further when I have time.
I do like the 'simple' nature of this, something just about everyone should be able to understand and use.
Cheers, John

We are seeing more and more appreciation of the eb...

2007-12-07T11:52:00.000-08:00

We are seeing more and more appreciation of the ebRIM/JAXR metamodel these days. It's not so much that there's interop inherent in it (although there is), it's more that this end-user driven standard really encodes for a lot of use cases that happen to come in handy. I agree that UDDI is far from universal but a lot of vendor interop uses it today...

Paul,I like your regrep implementation and the who...

2007-12-07T08:34:00.000-08:00

Paul,

I like your regrep implementation and the whole REST vs ebRIM catalog has been generating a lot of discussion in the geospatial software world.

A couple of questions though;

ebRIM allows object associations which is really powerful (e.g. service->dataset, dataset->owner) - I don't see how this is possible with REST apart from using xlink:href or a path such as /owner/dataset which isn't very intuitive (I can't see explicit associations with a REST registry)

JEE spec mandates a JAXR client, so that components can access an XML registry - how do you envisage this in a case of a REST registry and being spec compliant?

Registry looks really good though and I am going to start to look into it!

MikoI think the idea of a standardized model for a...

2007-12-04T08:58:00.000-08:00

Miko

I think the idea of a standardized model for a Registry/Repository is very appealing - and I'd even like to see an open source project to build out a framework for validation and governance too. I completely agree about the value of this.

Paul

I think that registry repository will be a fairly ...

2007-12-04T08:46:00.000-08:00

I think that registry repository will be a fairly easy component to develop in an open source way.

Hopefully a project like this would eventually become the core of all registry repositories, given that it is sufficiently standards-compliant that it can meet organizational needs.

I would certainly be open to discussing federation with such a registry repository and Software AG Centrasite (a product with both Infravio and Software AG roots).

This would be like many enterprises and their use of Eclipse as a platform for creating all kinds of tooling.

The reason why I propose such a thing is because there's registry repository validation which is a facet of governance, but we have found that building governance applications on top of a standards-based (in our case JAXR provider 1, UDDI and ebXML Registry Repository) is what most large organizations need, not just the core registry repository functions.

This would include workflows, approvals and ways to federate disparate IT constituencies. RSS, REST and other lightweight content models are excellent of course.

The economic value of the registry repository platform so far has been in enabling enterprises to govern not just design time validation, but the whole lifecycle. I'm sure that makes a ton of sense to you as I know you have very strong runtime understanding...

Miko

Paul,Agree with your UDDI analysis and I don't thi...

2007-12-03T11:30:00.000-08:00

Paul,

Agree with your UDDI analysis and I don't think there is ever going to be huge support for UDDI specification. I'm working for a telco standards group at the moment that is debating the merits of recommending a public/shared UDDI repository. I'm definitely interested in taking a look at the REST based registry/repository.